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	<title>Comments on: Organic alcohol denat in organic skin care?</title>
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		<title>By: Jolene</title>
		<link>http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/12/11/organic-alcohol-denat-in-organic-skin-care/comment-page-1/#comment-422228</link>
		<dc:creator>Jolene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jan 2012 03:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that alcohol can be left out of a LOT of products. However, there are some products that require the use of water and oil such as lotion and need an emulsifier to bond them. The other alternative is a body butter that is made from oils and butters or the use of oil for moisture. However, most people do not like how greasy these products are and want a water based moisturizer that absorbs better in the skin. Since water is being mixed with oil, an emulsifier is needed. There are other options such as emulsifying wax, however, these are synthetic products and the ingredients to these are not even disclosed due it being trade secret. The only real natural and organic option (that I am aware of, but ofcourse, there could always be something new to the market, I personally have not seen anything else) is organic alcohol. Without it or a synthetic option, no lotion. Be nice if there was another option, I would surely like to get my hands on it to make some lotions (which I do like to make myself, so I can control the ingredients.) Also, lotion generally requires about 4-6% of an emulsifier to bond the water and oil together, so there is a reason a certain amount is used. It is all in the chemistry. (Lotions usually take bout 70-85% water, and more towards the 80% range, depending on the thickness, so the rest of the stuff is actually in small quantities anyways too. Anyways, hope that information helps. Be blessed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that alcohol can be left out of a LOT of products. However, there are some products that require the use of water and oil such as lotion and need an emulsifier to bond them. The other alternative is a body butter that is made from oils and butters or the use of oil for moisture. However, most people do not like how greasy these products are and want a water based moisturizer that absorbs better in the skin. Since water is being mixed with oil, an emulsifier is needed. There are other options such as emulsifying wax, however, these are synthetic products and the ingredients to these are not even disclosed due it being trade secret. The only real natural and organic option (that I am aware of, but ofcourse, there could always be something new to the market, I personally have not seen anything else) is organic alcohol. Without it or a synthetic option, no lotion. Be nice if there was another option, I would surely like to get my hands on it to make some lotions (which I do like to make myself, so I can control the ingredients.) Also, lotion generally requires about 4-6% of an emulsifier to bond the water and oil together, so there is a reason a certain amount is used. It is all in the chemistry. (Lotions usually take bout 70-85% water, and more towards the 80% range, depending on the thickness, so the rest of the stuff is actually in small quantities anyways too. Anyways, hope that information helps. Be blessed.</p>
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		<title>By: Kiehl's organic Acai collection review &#124; Viva Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/12/11/organic-alcohol-denat-in-organic-skin-care/comment-page-1/#comment-309991</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiehl's organic Acai collection review &#124; Viva Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Aug 2010 02:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] and stearyl alcohol. So that&#8217;s a no-no for me because I have already made my stand regarding alcohol-free organic skin care. But for those who don&#8217;t mind the alcohol content, the products seem to work rather well [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] and stearyl alcohol. So that&#8217;s a no-no for me because I have already made my stand regarding alcohol-free organic skin care. But for those who don&#8217;t mind the alcohol content, the products seem to work rather well [...]</p>
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		<title>By: sesame</title>
		<link>http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/12/11/organic-alcohol-denat-in-organic-skin-care/comment-page-1/#comment-283031</link>
		<dc:creator>sesame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 02:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, agreed!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, agreed!</p>
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		<title>By: Ms. Blacklace</title>
		<link>http://www.vivawoman.net/2009/12/11/organic-alcohol-denat-in-organic-skin-care/comment-page-1/#comment-283010</link>
		<dc:creator>Ms. Blacklace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:33:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>however, grain alcohol is better than alcohol obtained by cracking crude oil.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>however, grain alcohol is better than alcohol obtained by cracking crude oil.</p>
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		<title>By: sesame</title>
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		<dc:creator>sesame</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 06:49:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recall reading that FDA says Phenoxyehanol can depress the central nervous system as well as cause dermatitis.  Personally, I haven&#039;t been much concern with it if it&#039;s listed behind but I do wish it&#039;ll not be included.  As for the fatty alcohols you mentioned, I went through a discussion with the others in my earlier post.  Most said the same that it&#039;s different from conventional alcohols although I disagree in terms of the effects.  I think they can be drying to our skin when too much is used - few shared my view.  Anyway Dr Nitasha Buldeo also indicated that they are only different because of the fatty component and these ingredients are equally dehydrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recall reading that FDA says Phenoxyehanol can depress the central nervous system as well as cause dermatitis.  Personally, I haven&#8217;t been much concern with it if it&#8217;s listed behind but I do wish it&#8217;ll not be included.  As for the fatty alcohols you mentioned, I went through a discussion with the others in my earlier post.  Most said the same that it&#8217;s different from conventional alcohols although I disagree in terms of the effects.  I think they can be drying to our skin when too much is used &#8211; few shared my view.  Anyway Dr Nitasha Buldeo also indicated that they are only different because of the fatty component and these ingredients are equally dehydrating.</p>
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